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00:00:02:29 – 00:00:17:29

Richard Carthon: Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Crypto Current your host here Richard, Carthon. And today I have a very special guest all the way out in Mangalore, India, working on a cool NFT project that I’m excited to learn more about. You have deep bench you with assets mental. How are you doing today?

00:00:18:28 – 00:00:24:18

Deepanshu Tripathi: I’m doing great now, Richard, and I’m going to be talking on the show.

00:00:25:15 – 00:00:33:00

Richard Carthon: No doubt, man. Well, excited to learn more about you and everything you have going on. But first, let’s learn a little bit more about you can give us a little bit of background on yourself.

00:00:33:20 – 00:00:52:23

Deepanshu Tripathi: Absolutely. So like formal, formally educated in computer science and engineering, like started my career off in fintech. I did multiple integrations on different kinds of payment instruments. I’ve been at the deep end of how to like

00:00:55:12 – 00:01:37:02

Richard Carthon: utilize instruments like card payments and like third party gateway transfers, etc. and in like working on that and compliance as payment compliances as well, I realized the potential of blockchain as a potential settlement layer where there’s been zero reconciliation, and that’s how Micah dove into blockchain. So I have been working on this technology since 2017 and in fact have been working on the whole cosmos tech stock, the Tendermint Consensus Engine, General Cosmos SDK, even before the Chambers Life and even production ready.

00:01:37:15 – 00:02:03:25

Richard Carthon: So yeah, over the years have built multiple projects. I have been contributing to a lot of projects. So this started off from Comdex and then work done and built persistence. Uh, I worked on Stick and now like a lot of this code, a lot of those capabilities and modules have packaged and presenting now as asset managers to the end user.

00:02:05:03 – 00:02:23:15

Richard Carthon: That’s really cool. So you have quite a robust experience, especially around the ecosystem blockchain of Cosmos now, I guess just stay there for a second. What was it about the BLOCK, the Cosmos ecosystem that really pique your interest and you decided to really explore and and build upon this ecosystem?

00:02:24:20 – 00:02:26:13

Deepanshu Tripathi: Absolutely. So

00:02:28:04 – 00:03:04:10

Deepanshu Tripathi: when I was starting out, there were quite a lot of different options to build on. So there was, of course, the Hyperledger Tech stack. And that, of course, was then and even today very popular. The Etherium solidity Dex Stack then discovered a lot of different other solutions as well, like waves for the consensus and that built on Scala which which like piqued my interest a lot but then saw the Tendermint code deposit base consensus engine and the cosmos as they saw the community.

00:03:05:25 – 00:03:58:03

Deepanshu Tripathi: And then and even more so now, the robust technical like community around it that we’re very focused on building and delivering the best architecture and product technically. And to drop the dollar, the cherry on top was the, uh, like the mission and vision of Cosmos back then, which was to build the Internet of Blockchain. Now that resonated with me because being a student of distributed systems and fault tolerance, I realized that the world computer and all the different applications one does not make that much sense to me as as the idea of having different replicated consensus state machines working independently and connected to protocol and forming an Internet of blockchain.

00:03:58:05 – 00:04:06:07

Deepanshu Tripathi: Now that resonated. And so I started working on it even before the the whole tech stack. Was production ready.

00:04:07:19 – 00:04:26:22

Richard Carthon: Yeah, that’s awesome. So the Internet of Blockchains, the Cosmos Mission. And so you’ve been in this ecosystem building for the last five years. You’ve worked on a lot of different projects. I believe you said persistence was one of them, and then you landed upon what is now asset mantle. So tell us what is Ascent Mantle and when did you start working on it?

00:04:28:09 – 00:05:08:10

Deepanshu Tripathi: So like the idea around us at Mantle, the gold concepts around us at Mantle and even the team that we have have currently built up that mantle, have been together and working on the same or similar like use cases since 2017. The first use case that we tried to solve and tackle was that of complex high seas, commodities dating use case. So at that particular point of time, like we were very pumped through and I started off with a mission to utilize the blockchain technology to kind of build real world use case at that particular point of time.

00:05:09:06 – 00:05:49:10

Deepanshu Tripathi: The whole blockchain ecosystem was a very self-contained self, like a fulfilling use case, fulfilling kind of ecosystem, and we were looking to solve a problem that would be more like scalable. So I saw this problem which was around high seas, commodity trading and the need for a mass management information system which is immutable and which cannot be biased by like one entity or party. And any like transactions that have gone bad are where you can utilize the proofs of the blockchain to submit.

00:05:49:12 – 00:06:30:14

Deepanshu Tripathi: And I showed that head. And then in a court of law you can say, okay, this event happened and this is the proof of this happened. So that particular use case was the complicated commodity trading use case. We built tokenization asset tokenization implementation at that particular point of time to tokenized objects which are oceanic bills of lading, which actually was documents with 70 plus fields. We converted them into NFT, then enabled modules for escrow, our trade discovery, exchange and financing of off of these like entities at that particular point of time where even they cannot show that these were colony parties.

00:06:30:22 – 00:07:06:09

Deepanshu Tripathi: We were that early with the nineties. So having built this use case, of course, context was then and even the actual byproduct of context is consortium use, case product. It’s not open to public, it’s just a consortium of traders that utilize it. But realized key the, the platform that we have built the technology build the text that we’re built can be repurposed and utilized for other asset tokenization and exchange deals with asset tokenization and exchange use cases.

00:07:06:21 – 00:07:50:23

Deepanshu Tripathi: So that’s how the idea of asset models came around. Hey, what if we build a multi-tenant marketplace of marketplaces where multiple different kinds of varied use cases can come on board? Of course, I as a developer, I as a black architect, do not have any idea about like, for example, how how this commodity did what is the end business that knows it? What I know is how to like give this business a tool stock to be able to do so. So that’s that’s the whole idea around asset mantle, which is to provide tools for people to be able to for businesses to be able to not only like tokenize their assets, but build up flows and organizational structures to manage their flows as well.

00:07:52:05 – 00:07:52:22

Deepanshu Tripathi: So

00:07:54:12 – 00:08:24:25

Deepanshu Tripathi: a lot of the code, a lot of the modules that we built for Comdex, they they continue and like evolved and carried forward. And we then came in touch with in 2020, 2020, and we came in touch with ICF and the Chain Foundation, which looked at our like implementation and like they got interested in seeing if this could be built into kind of a standard that the Cosmos ecosystem can adopt and utilize.

00:08:24:27 – 00:08:57:10

Deepanshu Tripathi: So they ended up like of, of funding us to like work on the standard, the interchange and every standard, internet standard. We worked on it for like six months and there were a lot of great projects involved and the African to do the work in like 2021. And since then we have been like delivering and we PS and Testnet and finally we are at like minute level for asset matter.

00:08:57:22 – 00:09:00:14

Deepanshu Tripathi: So that’s, that’s been kind of the journey for us around. Yeah.

00:09:01:00 – 00:09:35:18

Richard Carthon: Then that’s really cool. So just to try to unpack that a little bit. So the the goal of asset mantle is provide businesses the tools essential to tokenize different elements of their business and being able to do that without having to know any code or just having a really, really easy user interface to be able to tokenize different parts of their business. But then on top of that, you all created this standard on top of the cosmos ecosystem called energy. Train interchange, I.A. e r c h i in interchange fees, which is now become the NFT standard of cosmos.

00:09:35:20 – 00:09:36:22

Richard Carthon: Is that about right?

00:09:37:08 – 00:10:31:14

Deepanshu Tripathi: So we are still trying to push that particular standard. It has not yet become standard. So some of the project, for example, are building and Cosmos and some of the projects are building on an older implementation that was in like putting the incubation modules on the cosmos get repositories. And currently, yes, we are still in talks with other projects to push this as a standard. But yes, it is on the track for standardization and we are spending time and effort and it’s one of our like goals and missions to like have it be adopted as a into an NFT standard, which is it like which allows entities to flow through and participate in applications across the cosmos like in the in a connected ecosystem.

00:10:32:03 – 00:10:53:06

Richard Carthon: Yeah, which is really cool. So good luck with keeping the pushed forward and in becoming potentially the standard on the Cosmos ecosystem. But as I’m looking on that mantle, I see some of the options which include exploring verified NFT collections, building your own customizable stores. Can you kind of explain like what are some of the different utilities and in ways that asset mantle is being.

00:10:54:25 – 00:10:56:14

Richard Carthon: Used by your users today?

00:10:57:08 – 00:11:34:07

Deepanshu Tripathi: Yes, absolutely. So like all the the like asset mounted modules and Internet expanded allows for like very complex flows and asset tokenization implementations that we implemented as a project. Like we are coming out with the first and the most simplified use cases that this particular like toolset could enable, which currently is focused towards like art, art and collectible creation.

00:11:34:19 – 00:12:08:23

Deepanshu Tripathi: So the, the first set of like frontend that we have exposed is focused around mainly for utilities. The first utility is a what we call inter identity, interchange identity. So what this enables for the users to do is hold an increase in wallets that are connected to the identities and authenticated through their are like keys, are cryptographic keys and that are rotatable rather than actually have the cryptographic key maintain the wallet.

00:12:08:25 – 00:12:52:24

Deepanshu Tripathi: So what this allows for is it just makes it easier for the web to like clientele web users to get onboarded on top of the platform and get KYC if required or stay anonymous if the identities allow for both and in scenario that they end up losing their seats or the lender to losing the device on the table for the able to rotate the keys. And that never blows up like the access to the whole account. What it also allows for, and this is one of the big pieces as well, is that the value of balances is not just determined by the speculative value, but as well or even the content of the art inside the NFT.

00:12:53:00 – 00:13:25:00

Deepanshu Tripathi: But also based on the social aspect, which is who was it that created it? Who was it that owned it and what was the chain of ownership? So for example, if like an NFT was owned by, let’s say of billions identity one, then the chain of ownership, now that that is something that from the social aspect gives it value. So yeah, that the first aspect, first big aspect which is the identity aspect is the social aspect that the platform enables. The second aspect is the single wallet aspect.

00:13:25:14 – 00:14:00:10

Deepanshu Tripathi: So currently, like majority of the NFT projects are built on a smart contract based implementation. Now the thing with this implementation is that it’s one smart contract is responsible for and takes care of the ownership of the of and it is by your wallet. So but the difficulty with that thing is that it just just takes your wallet to like own one specific kind of NFT could enable against one smart contract.

00:14:00:21 – 00:14:35:04

Deepanshu Tripathi: So if I were to end up you, let’s say random smart contract, you will never get to know about it unless you went out and scanned all the smart contracts that are out in the world. So that kind of makes it difficult. And from the UX perspective, also gets a little bit of friction. But the wallet that we are that we have worked on and created is single wallet for all different kinds of benefits, irrespective of what application or market statement it or even if that blockchain is following vendor of the standard what blockchain minted it.

00:14:35:06 – 00:15:07:22

Deepanshu Tripathi: So one wallet, one single representation, one place where you can view all NFT and even one UI UX where you can view it. If example, if there was an NFT that you had minted an NBA adoption, suddenly if you had an NFT that you had minted on that gets the that platform, you cannot view both of them at that singular place. But but I predict with like that though into NFT wallet, you are able to view all of these and have have have them and collated it at one place.

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00:15:08:09 – 00:15:37:09

Deepanshu Tripathi: But the third aspect is the indigene aspect, which is you’re able to not only utilize this NFT across marketplaces, they are interoperable but also across chain say I will extend them across across across the like interchangeable. And how have these entities participate in other blockchain blockchain applications as well? The fourth, and I think first it is the most important aspect for me

00:15:38:26 – 00:16:21:29

Richard Carthon: and I keep on when people ask me what is it that actually gets value to the NFT is how should we evaluate the NFT as valuable or not? I always say this that whatever is on the blockchain, only that particular aspect is. Anything, any asset related to the NFT that isn’t off chain, that is female led, that is temporary, that may or may not exist in the future. So with the implementation asset model implementation, we have implemented all the NFT modules at a native Genco level, making it first class citizen of the blockchain itself and all of the metadata.

00:16:22:18 – 00:17:23:26

Richard Carthon: The chain allows to send all this to it, like at ATMs, x22 fields to be stored on chain itself. So what this allows for it is a data being like kind of a permanent on chain and b the blockchain to be able to read this data without requirement of oracles, etc. and operationalize a lot of different functionalities on top of them. So that makes the NFT much more versatile, much more capable, and, and takes it away from the current like simplistic implementations that are out there, which just also gets received to like the sums that the digital asset that you might have bought and make that first trust citizen of the blockchain, which we are able to do much more complex operations of much more complex transactions on top of them than than just like an do that have the metadata option.

00:17:24:13 – 00:17:58:24

Richard Carthon: Right. So let me speak to that for a second. So and I agree that this is a really big point, and thank you for breaking down all four of those points. But I want us to stick on want stay here for a second because I bring in everything on chain. Like you said, is this for the native asset mantle nfts that are being minted on inner chain or is it that, for example, I own a bought eight yacht? I bring it on to this ecosystem because it’s interoperable and now because I bought it within this ecosystem, now it’s being put on chain that I have the ownership.

00:17:59:03 – 00:18:00:11

Richard Carthon: Can you explain that a little bit more?

00:18:02:08 – 00:18:36:08

Deepanshu Tripathi: So let’s talk about Beau, for example, here. Right. So like the majority of the content on the boarded on how the app itself looks is is kind of an image that is generated in both auction. Right. It’s outside the chain. And if if that particular piece of information that lost, it would be it would not you would not be able to like to cover it. So maybe like 20 years down the line where like Italian blockchain is still learning, but the web, two aspects of it, the dominance of the body and a beautiful lost.

00:18:36:23 – 00:19:23:16

Deepanshu Tripathi: So how would you how would you be able to like give it any value? Right. But with the asset model, like all the different aspects of it except for the like main, like how to render those aspects the UI part of it, all the different shades, all the different characteristics, all the different, like immutable, immutable and that have been attacked us all to the 90. And not only that, the the blockchain since its launch in the blockchain is able to like seed it which which implies that it is able to like assess for example like how did this particular item as or how many of them I mean that all even if someone were to try to mint the NFT with the same set of aspects, I got to six again how to stop it as well.

00:19:24:00 – 00:19:41:12

Deepanshu Tripathi: So this launching aspect really gets you like the true ownership of the characteristics and shape that that that particular NFT has. Now you might ask that, hey, like for how about you storing that huge amount of data on chain and then

00:19:43:07 – 00:20:09:04

Deepanshu Tripathi: a chain started becoming too heavy now that yes, that that definitely is a possibility. And in fact, the storage on chain storage is one of the like most precious commodities on any blockchain irrespective. But what the what the asymmetric multiple like a blockchain vision allows the cosmos vision allows is that let’s say that your NFT

00:20:10:28 – 00:20:53:23

Deepanshu Tripathi: application is taking too much storage on chain. What you could do is just fuck it off and like build a supply chain with its own individual as standalone storage. So just imagine one chain for both. The only in that scenario, the total storage that is utilized on chain that that does not like become too much for the blockchain to handle. So also asset model is kind of a launchpad for for predictive start from where they could like start and mint and create their market basis without with zero code and with the residual gas beasts and which also allows for like that to user that.

00:20:53:29 – 00:21:37:14

Deepanshu Tripathi: They were exposed to the platform and benefit system as well to the ECB on board and start utilizing it. If the if the application becomes big enough with the huge amounts of storage requests, they can as easily utilise all these modules and spin up as a separate chain and have all the storage and all the like transaction being handled at that. So this basically is like horizontal scalability, like they could be like tens of thousands of like NFT projects that are built and all of them are giving very high dibs because all of them are like a blockchain that are running, running parallel and are not competing with each other for gas and computation.

00:21:38:20 – 00:22:11:19

Richard Carthon: Yeah. Which it would depend too, for for some of those who didn’t necessarily follow that as explaining as horizontal scalability, the ability for the data that’s being transmitted to be scaled up, to be done faster, because a lot of the blockchains unfortunately become slower as it it’s more utilized. And what asset mantle is helping to do as a launchpad for entities is helping to provide some of that horizontal scalability using its in a chain and providing a way for everything to be on chain and then also to make it be faster as well.

00:22:11:21 – 00:22:23:24

Richard Carthon: So definitely I appreciate you explaining that a little bit more, but I also want to shift gears just a little bit. You have a couple of announcements, I believe, that are coming up for SS mental. Would you mind sharing a couple of those?

00:22:24:13 – 00:23:01:15

Deepanshu Tripathi: Yes, absolutely. So like there has been a lot of questions around, hey, you guys are just came out of nowhere in 2022 and like, what’s the timelines, what, what what are your projects are these days except for like so of course, as we just discussed, we have been like working, building even the committees on GitHub have like have been like spaced out over quite a big amount of time. And although it might seem very quick but like we have be a hub of like very good functional releases lined up.

00:23:01:17 – 00:23:41:21

Deepanshu Tripathi: So we, we did as we did our bank minute release last month that were massive token of life and that this Friday was when the proposal and process chain passed for to start the incentivization of liquidity provision on the osmosis block number six currently on a small session. So yeah that live and that the liquidity is building up and the token is trading so that’s that’s one one big announcement that I would want to draw the attention correlations.

00:23:42:07 – 00:24:13:20

Deepanshu Tripathi: Thank you. The second the second big announcement is our marketplaces. It’s like on the Genesis Creators preview as launched as well on market there’s that asset mantle that one. So like of the the wheels that are excited to see what kind of projects are going to be coming out. The Genesis projects on top of asset managers, they can head over to Marketplace at Asset Mantle of one and see the collections and the artists that are coming on board and the projects that are coming on board.

00:24:14:16 – 00:24:45:26

Deepanshu Tripathi: Following that, we are going to have a chain update and introduce the identity module and start minting identities for the end user. Following that, we are going to do that and implement that. Right now that would be just like crazy. And then our whitelisted sales are a full week down the line. We’re going to do the engine mint at following that. We’re going to do Marketplace based on listing and exchange of these entities.

00:24:45:28 – 00:24:55:04

Deepanshu Tripathi: So all of that is in line. All of that are coming in, such as succession of producers. And yeah, that’s what I would want to talk about for.

00:24:55:06 – 00:25:25:17

Deepanshu Tripathi: The two really big announcements. Congratulations on both of those. For those listening who are interested, make sure you go and participate and check them out. And uh, one other thing I wanted to bring up real quick is, you know, the concept of being able to use Nfts as a hedge potentially with all the current market conditions going on right now. Before the show started, we were kind of like diving into just what’s been going on with the market. Of course, one of the biggest headlines right now is Terra Luna, the US situation.

00:25:25:19 – 00:25:35:16

Deepanshu Tripathi: We’re not going to get into that today, but people are starting to look at, you know, what can you start doing within the crypto markets as as a hedge and you brought up in a tease. So can you kind of expand on that a little bit?

00:25:36:10 – 00:26:14:26

Deepanshu Tripathi: Yes, absolutely. So we are definitely in doubling down with respect to the markets, not only crypto, but like the world economy, like indicators are also like showing a little bit of turbulence. And in this in this market, I would say. Like. And it is definitely an issue that did take a hit with respect to the market pricing and the trading volumes. But during these turbulent times added this asset class and it is have like emerged as a hedge towards like the other fungible assets that are out there.

00:26:16:03 – 00:26:57:13

Deepanshu Tripathi: The reason for that is like since these assets are totally like based on actuality, they are based on like individual sales, etc. and not the prevalent like trading market conditions because it’s not a continuous course in which these assets are led to lose or gain value. And so we have these assets to represent the different paradigm to the cryptocurrency market and definitely are emerging as a safe haven or a rather hedge towards the like the general cryptocurrency markets.

00:26:58:12 – 00:27:30:16

Deepanshu Tripathi: Yeah. And. There’s a lot within this space. So nfts where? Not only is it becoming more mainstream and it’s being the way that we’re starting to see more market adoption into the crypto space. But I think more artists are starting to see all of the different angles in which nfts can be utilized for different web to type of businesses that can be brought into web3 and more power can be brought to the artists and to also your individual users who are participating in these different ecosystems.

00:27:30:18 – 00:28:11:15

Deepanshu Tripathi: So I do think there is a lot of opportunity within the space, especially as unfortunately more people are going to be turning more to cash and trying to find ways to diversify their cash in to different opportunities. And I do think NFT could be a really awesome place to explore, but depends. You’ve given us a lot of information, a lot of great things to look at as it relates to asset rental. But as we wrap up, I’d like to ask two questions. And the first I’m going to ask you is with all the information that you have gained over the last couple of years with the launching asset mantle, if you give yourself one or two pieces of wisdom when you first got started, what would you tell yourself?

00:28:13:25 – 00:28:39:27

Deepanshu Tripathi: Like I guess initially we were like kind of too early with and it days we went out with this project in July to go out to do this project in 20 2020 to gain validation to with respect to raising funds and like other other funds as well. And at that particular point of time, the whole like

00:28:42:01 – 00:28:56:09

Deepanshu Tripathi: market was not ready and I did not even know like in the beginning. But then it all just like went out and exploded and we kind of waited for the adoption to come before releasing it. And I would just say that,

00:28:57:26 – 00:29:15:06

Deepanshu Tripathi: A, be the change that we want to see in the world is go out with that. I would have just gone I should have this should have just like been the first movers. And we had the technology that we had. The market is ready. But like the, the, like the general

00:29:16:21 – 00:29:54:12

Deepanshu Tripathi: consensus was not that what if it’s a thing that is going to make an impact or not. So and that’s that’s one piece of I guess that that that it mattered. The the second one I would say is the with the spectre. And it is the the thing that how we tried to initially optimize on was the experience of the best to users how to like get them on board and make like some a bunch of problems on their like a usability use case initially.

00:29:54:23 – 00:30:31:07

Deepanshu Tripathi: But what we learned over time is that, yes, that definitely is important. But the biggest problem, the biggest issues with this, this particular space is that the artists, the creators, the the businesses that are trying to organize their assets are they are not supposed to be and they’re not required to be like tech savvy, crypto savvy, to be able to utilize these tools and this whole NFT marketplace and on a toolset that we have built in is just that is just a tool, right.

00:30:31:12 – 00:31:07:14

Deepanshu Tripathi: And it should be a utility or tool is defined by how easy it is to use. So that’s one piece of advice that I that I would want to kill myself early on that like the the first like optimization with respect to usability is and should always to be towards the creators, the, the businesses that are trying to utilize this technology. And it should be kind of like how a person trying to deploy a website, for example, today does not have to know about how cloud works at the whole concept that that is just out there and just deploying.

00:31:07:16 – 00:31:15:12

Deepanshu Tripathi: It’s easy as that, right? So the whole the whole they’re going to platform should be easy enough for anyone to just, like, plug and pick.

00:31:15:14 – 00:31:43:23

Deepanshu Tripathi: Up and start going. Absolutely. So number less, number one, be bold. And if you see a market opportunity, go for it. Don’t wait for the conditions to change so that you can then go into it. And the second is always have the user experience first and who you’re building for and making sure that it’s very easy for them to come on and use your end product. So I think those are two really good concluding thoughts. But as we wrap up here, what is a final thought that you want to leave with all of our listeners today?

00:31:45:28 – 00:31:50:12

Deepanshu Tripathi: So like, I would I would definitely want to, like,

00:31:52:24 – 00:32:28:19

Deepanshu Tripathi: discuss a little bit about neighbors. And over the past week, a lot of people have asked me past few weeks, a lot of people that have asked me that was the difference between a video game and whatever. And I think that made me think. And that’s like actually that has been the mood of assessment as well, which is redefining digital asset ownership. So the difference between video game and metaverse is like how valuable and how I introduce it. On how exchangeable funds like tradable those assets that you own.

00:32:28:21 – 00:32:47:10

Deepanshu Tripathi: I do put the hard work effort in in the video game. And ah, if the ownership is redefined, if the way that you own and if the way that you are permissionless able to like exchange this asset is, is, is the overall like a difference. So like going forward, I guess

00:32:49:07 – 00:33:29:04

Deepanshu Tripathi: just owning the physical assets and in life that we like gave the max maximum amount of attribute of the maximum amount of like value to I think the digital asset ownership is something that is going to be fundamentally like redefined, changed and with respect to NFT as an art and collectibles is just the beginning and we are going to be seeing huge, huge, huge different kinds of asset being tokenized and as giving like very different like weightage to owning and having a good portfolio of like digital assets on our, on our portfolios.

00:33:29:20 – 00:33:31:15

Deepanshu Tripathi: So yeah, that’s, that’s the part.

00:33:32:10 – 00:33:53:04

Deepanshu Tripathi: I think that is a good final thought. So for all those out there, the metaverse is coming. The more you can get these digital assets and be preparing for this next frontier, the better off you’re going to be as we head into this next decade. But depends you. Thank you so much for spending all the time that you have with us today and for dropping all the knowledge. What are ways that people can learn more about asset, mental and also connect with you?

00:33:54:21 – 00:34:19:24

Deepanshu Tripathi: The best way to start out, go down this rabbit hole is to toe. I would say that’s where we’re Mourdock’s most talked about. So we’re like I use the name as the asset mantle there and the bio has a link to it which has all the different links to join different communities and like chat groups, etc.. So yeah, I would say to the asset manager, that’s is the way.

00:34:20:22 – 00:34:39:15

Deepanshu Tripathi: Excellent. And we’ll also make sure to share that link in the show notes. And also you can go to asset mental dot one, which is their website to get more information there. So again, everyone listening, thank you so much for spending some time with us today. Depends on you. Thank you for sharing all this amazing information. Everyone listening. State cryptocurrency.