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Steven Miller: What’s going on, everybody for Crypto Current? I’m Steven Miller, and this is another interview with Crypto Current. Today, I’m joined by Vincent Orleck . Vincent is the president of social media club Phoenix, the social media lead for ex Phoenix Startup Week, and also now the digital communications manager for ASU Knowledge Enterprise. Vincent has an upcoming podcasts focused on the Metaverse called the Samatta podcast, and today we’re going to be talking about it, Vincent. Welcome to the show.

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Vincent Orleck: Thank you so much for having me.

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Steven Miller: To say, I’m thrilled to have you here, man, we go back quite a little, quite a little ways to Phoenix Startup Week last year and even Phoenix Startup Week from an attendees perspective. Beyond that, but this show really has the potential to be something very educational and interesting for all of us. I guess the modern world, as we see going forward. So just for everybody to understand what this no matter podcast is, can you tell us a little bit about your vision for it and what you have planned?

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Vincent Orleck: Yeah, I’d love to. And again, thanks for having me on to kind of talk about it a little bit. We’re still in the launch phase. So the the intro episode is out there, but there’s a bunch of episodes coming.

00:02:20:24 – 00:02:53:12

Vincent Orleck: Basically, the goal was I wanted to learn more about the Metaverse capital M meta and lowercase m metaverse and metaverse is plural. And I figured I wasn’t alone that there’s a lot of. You know, misinformation and or Morsell misconceptions, I think, out there. And I’m trying to come at it from really an educational learning standpoint.

00:02:55:18 – 00:03:15:27

Vincent Orleck: I need to learn more about it. And there’s a lot of people out there that know way more about all of it than I do. I’m, you know, I’ve worked in social media marketing for a decade. So I have some idea enough to be dangerous with some of this stuff and obviously Facebook becoming capital amateur.

00:03:17:29 – 00:03:34:05

Vincent Orleck: Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey leaving to pursue turning square into more of a blockchain fintech piece and block literally, I believe, is the new name.

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Vincent Orleck: So it’s all heading that way. Web3, right? We’re not going to go too long into this podcast, probably without saying the term Web three.

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Vincent Orleck: So I just I just needed to. I felt like I need to learn more about it and and that there would be others that wanted to as well. But really, I’m just I’m more so doing it for me and our selfishness. I’m doing it so for my own learning. But it tends to be the case where if you know someone, if you’re interested in something like that, there’s there’s probably a good amount of other people interested in it, too. And at the very least, there’s a niche audience that’s that’s interested in.

00:04:16:05 – 00:04:33:18

Vincent Orleck: It’s probably a pretty big niche, but just I’m sure we’ll get into it. There’s just a lot of misconception out there. I know there’s misconception, conception out there and kind of people not not taking it seriously. And even in my limited knowledge of it, I think that’s a mistake.

00:04:34:24 – 00:05:11:00

Steven Miller: Yeah, I would have to agree with you, I mean, I think that the the reason that I’m really fascinated by what you’re doing is the fact that you’re basically taking this handheld approach of saying, come on this journey with me, right? The way that we approach things here, cryptocurrencies, we like to connect the thought leaders with the community and make it make more sense at the beginner level. Right? Some things up make it a little bit more approachable. But this idea of taking the journey with somebody who’s learning along the way with you, I think is a really great way to look at the metaverse because on the surface, it’s a really overwhelming concept, right?

00:05:12:21 – 00:05:20:09

Steven Miller: I mean, it’s enormous, so like you have all of these things that are going on, so not just like this big landscape that you’re going to be a part of online, but you have.

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Steven Miller: Like the virtual reality component of gaming with NFTs and trying to wrap your head around all that from just hearing from a thought leader, I don’t think it’s really easily digestible. So I think that I have to give a lot of credit to you for this. I think that is going to be the thing that makes this so that a podcast really special. So big tip of the cap to you there. But I want to get into what you envision for it, right? When you see yourself going down this path of like, see that basically viewing it through the lens of somebody who’s been in social media as long as you have.

00:05:56:27 – 00:06:07:05

Steven Miller: What is it that you immediately want to start looking at like if you look at the first three to six episodes, do you have a vision for like what you want your audience to be hearing about first?

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Steven Miller: Yeah, definitely setting, setting that type of foundation of what will we be doing? Why are we doing it this way? And then who are the the people that we should listen to

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Steven Miller: really trying to start off on the right foot

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Steven Miller: so someone, you know, a few of the people? There were some people out there that have already been doing this for a very long time that that I feel are knowledgeable. I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt at this point and a lot of people that are early adopters that they did jump on this before Mark Zuckerberg came out and announced capital and. They were already in it for years. Even I know one person that she’s she’s been in it for, you know, twenty since twenty thirteen, which is almost a decade at this point.

00:07:07:10 – 00:07:40:16

Steven Miller: So that’s that’s what I want to do because I need to do that for myself. I need to set that foundation for myself and figure out, OK, what are all the places that this is going to touch? Basically, everywhere, it feels like eventually it’s not going to all be tomorrow, but eventually we’re going to get to a point where. There are going to be pieces or full on metaverse. Elements in everything and and I’ll tell you, the thing that spurred this for me was this.

00:07:42:14 – 00:08:12:21

Vincent Orleck: I’m an eight year old daughter who when all of this pandemic stuff started a couple of years ago, she was kind of getting into she’s playing Minecraft here and they’re getting more into it and then and getting into Roblox a little bit too. And then, of course, as the whole thing’s pandemic, when we were just home, she’s been virtually schooled the whole time. And I work from home.

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Vincent Orleck: And so she’s, you know, she’s had more screen time and I’m a I’m a believer in that. It’s OK to a certain extent for the more screen time because that is her generation. They’re going to that’s what they’re going to use. So learn it all. And so she’s been involved in these. In these worlds is virtual worlds where, you know, not VR, but roaming around all these different Roblox worlds, especially in and there’s a there’s a currency within Roblox is the currency within Minecraft.

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Vincent Orleck: So I mean, it’s it’s one I kind of see this a lot to the people I know and family and talking about, well, these kids are already in the metaverse, even in the metaverse metaverse for multiple years. And. We’re I’m behind her at this point, so I’m trying to I’m trying to catch up, at least to her. I’m learning about Robux, you know, the currency and roadblocks. I’m out of purchase some for her and watch her spend it and I’ve spent time in the games.

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Vincent Orleck: And so that’s one small piece, right? Like you mentioned gaming, that’s one small piece of it. And but I know that there’s just so many more opportunities, the brand side that’s going to happen. Marketing and brand brand adaptation of all this is definitely going to happen. I see that to a certain extent already, but it’s just going to happen in a bigger way. So I feel like it’s the future for marketing and you better know, have some grasp of what’s going on or what you’re going to get left behind.

00:09:48:08 – 00:10:18:15

Steven Miller: I’d have to agree. And I mean, look, you worked with as you knowledge, enterprise and I think immediately of all of these colleges across the country that are going to have to integrate metaverse study into their marketing programs. They have no choice from here for there’s going to come a moment when they start to click into place and say, Oh my God, all of branding is shifting online. All of these new spaces are opening up where we need to have marketing, not just strategy, but like deployment plans.

00:10:18:28 – 00:10:44:01

Steven Miller: So to me, I’m fascinated by that myself. I think that you’re you’re thinking about it from the right perspectives, but I have to get a little bit deeper into it. What have been like, the things that you’ve you’ve encountered so far that have really blown your mind the most? Because I have to imagine you’ve already dabbled into even a little bit beyond what you found in Roblox and Minecraft? What else has been almost overwhelming to you so far?

00:10:47:18 – 00:11:15:15

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Steven Miller: for.

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Steven Miller: I would say that it’s been overwhelming to me is is that whole idea of all the things that we’re not thinking of yet,

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Steven Miller: because it’s it’s easy to to say, you know, I work in higher ed.

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Steven Miller: That is going to permeate the higher ED space.

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Steven Miller: It’s going to get into whatever space you may you may be in, right, but it’s kind of like looking back at the internet from 15 years ago. We didn’t know 15 years ago what was going to be happening on that level on this scale with the internet. No one was imagining that maybe, maybe a few visionaries like a Steve Jobs or whoever, maybe there were there was some vision to a certain level, but no one could really imagine everything that is being done and happening with with the internet.

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Steven Miller: So that part is overwhelming in a good way. Because while I don’t, I still don’t think everybody’s kind of outlook on this list. I think that the general populace here is metaverse or Metta

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Steven Miller: thinks Facebook thinks Mark Zuckerberg thinks the big rollout announcement thinks people looking goofy sitting in an airport with a VR headset and controllers on, you know, while everybody else is doing their thing, waiting for their playing and they’re playing whatever game. And and that that is is funny to people in there like that’ll never catch on that. Well, I guess guess what else was never going to catch on, but this phone right here, people walking around with this? There was a lot of doubters that said the smartphone would never be what it is at this point.

00:13:16:00 – 00:13:42:10

Steven Miller: There’s a lot of those cases with tech, and it seems like every case with tech starts out that way. There’s a huge number of people that are like laughing at it. And then eventually, they’re all using it. And it’s part of their daily lives. So while I don’t think we’re all going to be inside of a metaverse. Twenty ten hours a day or doing all stuff inside a metaverse constantly.

00:13:43:28 – 00:14:09:24

Steven Miller: There’s going to be activity, there is going to be a large amount of activity eventually, it might be 10 years down the road, it might be 20. But I I do see I mean, it makes sense if you’re a brand, if you’re Gucci. Right? Don’t you want to have your own metaverse where someone can come in, they can enter your metaverse, basically your virtual store? Right? This is like a very base level concept.

00:14:11:09 – 00:14:51:27

Steven Miller: I want to go into the Gucci store. I’m here in Phoenix, Arizona. I don’t have access to a Gucci store. Oh, I can go in here and I can do these all these things virtually that will the tech will get better over time. You know, it won’t be where it is now, so it’ll all be very useful and functional. I think over time, as people keep working on it and I’ll be able to do almost anything I can do in a store in real life. And again, and coming back to this younger generation Gen Z and and I think what we’re calling basically Gen Alpha at this point, the kids that are growing up with all of this, they’re growing up in the middle of it and they’re already using it and know how to use it.

00:14:51:29 – 00:15:10:11

Steven Miller: And their expectation going forward will be, I’ll be able to do this virtually or I’ll be able to do this in this virtual world, maybe not with goggles on, but just in a virtual world of some sort. So that’s that’s what’s really overwhelming to me is everything that’s that’s possible.

00:15:11:02 – 00:15:52:27

Steven Miller: Yeah. And I mean, I think there’s a lot that can be unpacked from that, and I think that’s really the beauty of these types of educational shows, right? You can immediately tap into the culture element of how not just are you going to seek brands like Gucci and Nike and Adidas all jumping into the Metaverse, but talking about the multi-chain aspect of it as well, because what we talk about over here on our channel quite a bit is the interoperable future of cryptocurrency and of the digital asset world. So when I say multichain, I’m referring to the fact that right now, the vast majority, I believe it’s 90 percent of all NFTs and digital property are currently being traded on the Ethereum network.

00:15:54:09 – 00:16:24:16

Steven Miller: But on the Ethereum network, you’re going to have multiple metaverse is and then you’re also going to have additional chains like you’ve probably heard of Solana by now, avalanche all of these other chains, you’re going to want to take those assets across chains and be able to use them in all sorts of different metaverse is it’s going to be one metaverse, but it’s all going to have to be interoperable. That, on its own is a really fascinating concept that I don’t think a lot of people have any type of idea of yet.

00:16:24:27 – 00:16:56:04

Steven Miller: I think that when we see it all come to fruition, they’re not even to necessarily see all the different chains or all the different metaverse is when it’s out there in the entire world can really adopted. It’s going to be fluid. It’s going to be frictionless. They’re going to be able to take all of this property wherever they really want to. And I think that is the fruition that we’re heading toward. But I think that before that, you have culture, right? These things are going to transcend culture. You’ve already seen Adidas, Nike and Gucci. In fact, all jump in, you’ve seen Coke jump in, you’ve seen Pepsi jump in and even Budweiser.

00:16:57:01 – 00:17:28:09

Steven Miller: It’s more a question, not. Of like if it’s really a matter of when and I go back to the example that you started, it’s happened there with the iPhone, I think of bitcoin, right? If you were one of the individuals out there that’s questioning the metaverse is viability or like if if it really is and if it’s not because it’s a when people question bitcoin. Now governments are starting to use it as literal legal tender. You have companies like MicroStrategy, they’re putting it on their balance sheet.

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Steven Miller: We are in the very early innings with Metaverse. No question. Like, we’re pretty much in like year one at this stage of the game back where you would equate in 2009 to when bitcoin came up. That’s where we are. We’re in 09 with bitcoin. That’s where we are in the development of the metaverse. I would call it pre-history. So when I think about where we’re headed, it’s exciting as hell. I love it. And there is very little to be overwhelmed about, but there’s a time to be curious about. And I think that’s the big, beautiful thing about so matter.

00:18:03:26 – 00:18:12:25

Steven Miller: I think that you’re going to be able to tap into everybody’s curiosity and get those questions answered for them because you’re going to be their proxy. You’re going to have all those questions.

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Steven Miller: So, yeah, that’s the idea. That’s an especially since,

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Steven Miller: especially since I I don’t know if I I may sound a bit one one way like I believe in all of it. I don’t necessarily. That’s the thing. I’m talking in more possibilities. I don’t know if I buy into a yet is the whole thing. And I know that there’s a lot of people that feel that way or there’s more people that feel one side or the other. You know, they’re already taking sides over it. Or this is going to be amazing. This is going to it’s not going to happen to the stock.

00:18:51:23 – 00:19:36:07

Steven Miller: So I I really want to try to toe that line and and be objective about it and ask those questions and find out, you know, I plan to have on people, not just people that are all about it, but people that are not. That’s that’s part of it too is having sort of both sides of the coin talking about it. And, you know, at some point they’re not planned yet. But kind of a 2.0 phase of the show would be some sort of level of of a discussion debate between two people on opposite sides where I guess I would be the moderator if you want to call it that, but just bring on two different guests that that’s what they’re going to.

00:19:36:21 – 00:19:50:23

Steven Miller: They believe this, they believe this. And they’re not they’re not in agreement. And that’s, I think, where the real fun is going to be once we set that, that foundation of of what we’re trying to do, who you may want to pay attention to listen to,

00:19:52:11 – 00:19:53:02

Steven Miller: to start with.

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Steven Miller: And I think that you’re approaching it the right way, though I mean, a healthy dose of skepticism is going to go a long way. And even, you know, bring up contrarian thought like, that’s going to be the thing that allows people to keep an open mind, whether they come at it from one side of the spectrum or the other. So really, really for you to be thinking about it, and I certainly hope that we see phase two down the line.

00:20:17:15 – 00:20:49:22

Steven Miller: Yeah, yeah, that’s that’s the idea. And and definitely the whole world of as we’ve talked about, you know, offline, the whole world of NFTs and crypto and all that. I mean, it’s it’s all woven together and it’s going to be even more so if it’s not already and and even the whole the Dow thing that people are on now, that’s even already a big piece of it that I’m that I’m seeing online just in my research.

00:20:50:14 – 00:21:07:25

Steven Miller: Yeah. And I mean, as you look at the year 2022, it really isn’t 2022. It’s already by everybody in the crypto space being referred to as the year of the Dow. Everybody believes in that concept and that that’s where we’re headed. I personally am skeptical of it. Still, I think there’s some things that need to be fleshed out,

00:21:09:23 – 00:21:34:28

Steven Miller: but everybody is very excited about it. So to see it develop is going to be really, really interesting. What I am curious about because you did take off to the side there to NFTs and all of these other pieces that fit into the puzzle of the Metaverse. Are there any that you’ve already gotten your hands into component wise, like have you already gotten the chance to dabble in NAFTA at all or is that still something that’s a little bit outside of your purview?

00:21:35:22 – 00:22:07:03

Steven Miller: Yeah, I I own a little bit of crypto. I own a couple of NFTs. Very, very low level. I mean, not even I’ll tell you what I what I own one. I got super lucky. One is just a random, super small thing. NBA top shot. You know, I paid like six bucks to open an NBA Top Shot PAC and whatever I was. That was the first thing I got into because I love, you know, I’m into sports. I love the NBA, I love basketball.

00:22:07:05 – 00:22:18:10

Steven Miller: And so I want to see what that was and what exactly it was. It was all about. And for the entry level price of like six dollars. Sure. Of course I’m going to. Why not?

00:22:19:25 – 00:22:38:27

Steven Miller: Then the other one was, I just happened to, you know, somewhere on social and Twitter or something. I’m sure I forget where I heard about it first. But the Disney golden moments when they did that whole release for that week in celebration of their whatever anniversary, 75th, 50th, whatever. Yeah,

00:22:41:03 – 00:23:14:00

Steven Miller: I’m not a Disney Adult. No shame on Disney because I’m not Disney Adult, though, so I’m not sure the anniversary of the well was gold. So it’s the golden anniversary. It was all gold stuff, whatever that is. They released an NFT actually two NFTs daily for a week and I missed the first day, but that was how I heard about it. And then the second day I went in and they were doing it through the Vive app Vive. And again, they were very I my little limited knowledge about that.

00:23:14:02 – 00:23:50:19

Steven Miller: It seemed very smart because they know their audience right. And Disney knows their audience is not people that are into NFTs, but they’re into anything Disney. They will spend money on anything, Disney, whatever it is, and especially if it’s some sort of limited edition. So they were doing these limited edition and NFTs commemorating various characters and of different levels. So there was there was an ultra rare, a rare common, that sort of thing, culminating in the final one on the final day, which was an NFT of the look like statues.

00:23:50:21 – 00:24:23:09

Steven Miller: So as it was Walt Disney holding Mickey Mouse his hand and waving, and that one was like the ultra rare, I think there was only three thousand available. So the second day I went in, I deposited sixty dollars. So you put in dollars to get Blue Diamond’s blue gems and that’s their currency in the app and. At the time, the time I was in, the app hit the button and I got one. I happened to get one out of ten thousand.

00:24:23:12 – 00:24:53:20

Steven Miller: There was two that were available that day. One was of Wally and that’s the one I got. I now have a choice. It was just like whatever one they give you. And so out of ten does it. And then immediately, of course, for anyone that’s listening, that knows in their immediately, they like they’re up for sale inside the app and everyone’s selling them for the same price. There’s like eight thousand of them available. I’m not selling it. I’m not putting it up for sale.

00:24:53:22 – 00:25:10:03

Steven Miller: I have no reason to. I’m just going to kind of keep it in whatever it’s it’s in there. But that’s so that’s been my my personal NFT experience, aside from years and years of collecting baseball cards and football cards.

00:25:11:05 – 00:25:41:25

Steven Miller: I mean, look, that’s your first foray into the metaverse that’s going to be the gateway. Or, I would argue, the 40th society right now. That’s their first step into the metaverse. But the big misconception there that I would challenge you to bring onto your show is did the metaverse is not just online when we get to the point where metaverse is real? The metaverse is actually the cross-section of both online and real world because so much of what we consider title and property indeed in the real world is going to be stored on blockchain. That’s where it’s all headed.

00:25:41:27 – 00:26:21:02

Steven Miller: So you’re going to see these different touchpoints. The other place that I typically refer to is in the medical world. There’s very little reason why we shouldn’t actually have direct access to our own medical records, right? There are plenty of different platforms out there. They’re trying to bring health care online and onto the chain in particular, so that you can not only have more direct record, but in ease of movement of set records between doctors. So when I think about that, that’s like the big thing to me is like being able to cross that Rubicon for people, helping people to see that it’s not just going into a VR landscape or not just playing around in this like.

00:26:22:05 – 00:27:03:22

Steven Miller: The rural online world, like a Ruth’s paper at Neopets or anything like that that you probably remember from back when you were a kid, but to me, that’s the big, the big challenge, and I would certainly hope that you’re going to attack that a little bit with your audience. But when what the one thing I would tell you is, like, definitely continue to seek out more and more experts because. I know I introduced you to one offline, which is punk six, five to nine on Twitter. And if you’re really wanting to challenge the way that you think about things like metaverse and the place of NFTs in our society, influencers like him are challenging the status quo constantly about what we think and how we’re going to be adopting these technologies.

00:27:04:02 – 00:27:35:01

Steven Miller: So I know that you’ve got a lot of great names lined up, but I’m not going to spoil them for anybody. It is. It is currently thinking about listening to so might a podcast. But Vincent, before we go, I always like to ask one question on behalf of my partner in crime, Richard. And that is from all the things that you’ve learned so far in social media. And if you could take all of that and package it up for a vote on it and apply it to one like that lesson, apply it to what you’re about to set off and do with social media.

00:27:35:20 – 00:27:39:02

Steven Miller: What lesson is it that you’re going to keep in mind and what should other people be keeping in mind?

00:27:40:13 – 00:27:41:00

Steven Miller: Hmm.

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Steven Miller: I think. Because obviously, social media changes a lot.

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Steven Miller: But it also doesn’t change as much as people think it, it changes what it’s it’s not like this minute by minute, day by day change thing that people like to quote often. And there’s there’s also still many, many, many fundamental marketing principles involved with social media that I think people on the outside that don’t do it on a day to day basis. Forget about or they don’t realize they just think it’s know some, even even now, even these days, it’s still, oh, you’re going to tweet that out or something.

00:28:26:05 – 00:28:32:16

Steven Miller: No, I mean, we’re going to tweet that out. But after about a month of planning and putting it on a calendar and

00:28:34:12 – 00:28:36:13

Steven Miller: forming strategy and all that, so

00:28:38:04 – 00:28:53:29

Steven Miller: I think that is that is the biggest piece. I’m not I’m not coming into this lightly. And that’s part of the reason why. To be honest, it hasn’t launched yet is because I didn’t want to just for as much as we say, you know, being.

00:28:56:12 – 00:29:19:11

Steven Miller: Being genuine is great. I feel like I’m pretty genuine. But I also want to put time into developing it, and I and I want it to be launched the right way. So I started doing this or started working on this last fall. And I think taking the time to put something together like that is there’s value in that

00:29:21:01 – 00:29:51:23

Steven Miller: instead of just throwing something out there just because, oh, I have this itch to do this. I definitely on this itch to do this, and I had the itch in the fall. And so I created the intro and then from there, just trying to generate some, some buzz here and there or really is more just to get it out there for myself. Let people know. But I’m going to do this, whether people listen or not. That’s that’s the thing. Like, you can’t unless you’re doing it for a brand, you’re doing it out as a part of a campaign or something like, I’m doing this.

00:29:51:25 – 00:30:02:11

Steven Miller: This is for me. It really is. It’s for me. And I’m not why I want to have a plan. I’m not. I’m not setting out to breaking records, download records or

00:30:03:26 – 00:30:39:17

Steven Miller: even bring in sponsors or anything. It’s not about that. It’s just about. Talking to people, maybe some I haven’t met learning from others. Kind of exploring this, this discussion, exploring this topic and bringing some more knowledge to the people that are looking for it. And I think with social media, a lot of times we get we get caught up in a lot of vanity metrics. How many retweets of something get, how many impressions, how many people saw this? And I would say if I had to wrap it up, like, maybe don’t focus so much on that.

00:30:41:02 – 00:31:11:10

Steven Miller: If if even if you’re doing something for a brand, you never know what’s going to pop number one, you never know what’s really going to be successful. You can put all this effort into things we hear all the time. You know, the post that took three hours to create or sorry days or weeks to create versus the one that they just posted haphazardly or something in five minutes? That’s the one that goes viral. Let’s say it gets more engagement. So it’s it’s not all in our hands.

00:31:11:15 – 00:31:29:17

Steven Miller: We can we can put the best foot forward, but it’s it’s not always in, all in our hands, even as professionals. So that’s that’s how I’m approaching it. I’m I’m not trying to make this the top podcast on Spotify. It’s it’s just going to be what it is.

00:31:31:01 – 00:31:57:24

Steven Miller: Well, look, I think we can all certainly appreciate that and look, I appreciate you taking the time to come and chat with me about the podcast and what your view of the metaverse is. Of course, for those of you that are following along on the podcast and even here on YouTube. Please do us a favor. Give Vincent a follow. You can find him online at Vincent, or you can follow the Stomata podcast at So at a podcast on Twitter. Vincent, are there any other places that folks can can connect with you before we call it a day?

00:31:58:29 – 00:32:12:04

Steven Miller: I mean, I’m pretty much online everywhere, just under my name. You may see a hashtag, not a guru. It’s kind of a thing that I’ve adopted for the last decade because I don’t. I think it’s funny when we get called gurus of social media.

00:32:13:29 – 00:32:38:21

Steven Miller: Other than that, yeah, I’m just I’m kind of everywhere. I have LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, all that stuff. Instagram. So if you want any of those platforms, feel free to reach out and send me a message. And yeah, definitely follow that. So about a podcast crowd on Twitter. Check out the intro episode. If it’s something that you think might enjoy, then subscribe in and keep an eye out for the the first episode.

00:32:39:27 – 00:32:47:16

Steven Miller: Awesome, we’ll all be looking forward to it. So for those of you with the cryptocurrency crew, thanks for joining us today. We’ll talk to you soon on another episode. Stay cryptocurrency.

00:32:48:02 – 00:33:25:18

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00:34:35:17 – 00:34:48:14

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