James Key on Autonomy Network’s Approach to Automating Smart Contracts (Episode 255)
James Key join us to discuss Autonomy Network’s Approach to Automating Smart Contracts.
James dropped out of the final year of a physics degree to go full time crypto last bull run. After teaching himself how to code in Solidity, he’s worked in chain analysis for clients like the FBI, helped implement PoS in the consensus node at Flow, built DEXes and DEX bots. He’s now the founder of Autonomy Network and is obsessively leveling up DeFi and the NFT/gaming space by enabling DeFi to add advanced features like limits and stops in DEXes, enabling creators to launch sentient NFTs, and enabling games to add true NPCs to their games.
The following transcript was created using artificial intelligence. There will be some grammatical errors below.
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Richard Carthon: Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Crypto Current, your host here, Richard Carthon. And today I have a extremely cool guest all the way out in Germany, but it’s headed to the states real soon for a conference that we’re just missing each other on, which is Denver. But he has been working on an extremely cool project called Autonomy Network, and we have the CEO. James, how are you doing today?
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James Key: I’m doing good, man. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for having me. It sounds cool to be here. How are you doing?
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Richard Carthon: Man, I’m great. Happy that the market is starting to recover a little bit, and there’s a lot of a little bit of a light at the in the tunnel right now. So that is making the crypto bears start to warm up a little bit. So I like the optimism, but I digress. I want to learn a little bit more about you first. Can you give us some background on yourself?
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James Key: Uh, yeah, sure, so I like I’m from the UK, went to uni to study physics, dropped out in my last year, which was like the last bull run because I saw all these people like building stuff and people are raising billions of dollars and people get fucking frigging hacked and just there’s just so much going on, you know, compared to the the lab work that I was doing in one of the physics labs is just the pace of academia is just so slow. And so it was just like, so much more exciting.
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James Key: And so I dropped out. My first job was in like, you know, Chainalysis technical company like that wasn’t Chainalysis itself. But but some of the stuff doing like tracking and doing optimization for like the FBI in the course of what Dapper Labs building outflow the implementing proof of stake on the blockchain.
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James Key: Now it’s like a lot of like personal projects in between. My last job was it’s
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James Key: like a cross-chain Dex cold chain flip. They are going to launch soon, which is pretty cool to see. But yeah, I thought about this in like 2019, when two hacks on as a blockchain week.
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James Key: Got a price for it, but don’t really do anything with it, and kind of after the DeFi summer,
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James Key: it became very clear that there was like a huge market for this and it was like a real need and the people would actually use it if it if it built it.
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James Key: And yeah, yeah. And I just I really want to spend some time on that. So like what’s really cool about the business you made? It’s called Attommy Network, and what you create is a decentralized automation limit orders and stop losses on DEXs. So why is this really important? So for any of you who have ever been on like a Uniswap or want its exchange, et cetera? And you know that you want to buy a particular crypto for a certain price. Let’s say you want to buy a theorem for three thousand dollars.
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Richard Carthon: But of course, when you go on there, there’s slippage, there’s fees, there’s all these other kind of stuff that ultimately brings that price a little bit lower. But you say you really wanted at three thousand. So what you can do now is put using a tiny network is be able to put in that price at three thousand and then you’re able to basically get that price. Now do I have that right or am I missing anything, James?
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James Key: Yeah, totally. So like if the current prices like 4K, you can just set a limit order kind of the same way you would in Binance or Coinbase or something. And you know, while you’re asleep or off line or anything like the price dips to three K, then your order will execute and you’ll you’ll buy your.
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Richard Carthon: And it’s awesome, man. I mean, that is a huge feat that I don’t know of any other company that’s solved.
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Richard Carthon: How were you able to conceptualize that this was a huge need in this space? And then how did you go about creating the solution?
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James Key: The the original idea came from, I think, called GSN, which is a gas station network, which it’s kind of fallen out of favor a bit the last couple of years. But the goal of it was to so users wouldn’t need to pay gas in order to do a transaction. So it was like an easier way to onboard users into the depths so they would just sign a transaction and then someone else would pay the transaction fee. And I was just like curious about just reading, and I had a thought that they were always just immediately kind of relaying the transaction, like as soon as they got the signature they wanted.
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James Key: Whoever the relay was would sign an actual transaction and pay the gas, etc. and I realized that they wouldn’t have to send it immediately. They could send it like it’s a later time or, you know, under any condition, really, but that the way that Jason was doing it was kind of a bit of a centralized model. You would have kind of have to trust that they were going to send it in the right condition. So, you know, in the case of land oil, when the price is below or above.
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Richard Carthon: So yeah, it just became
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Richard Carthon: I was just thinking about how to like generalize this because like, this is kind of one use case. But what’s really missing from the crypto space in general is like an automation protocol and automation layer. Because I mean, like DEXs are a big use case and probably certainly the most this. That’s why most of the economic value is for use case like this in terms of like volume, etc. But I mean, there’s plenty of other stuff like automatically liquidating yourself before someone else liquidate to you and avoiding the liquidation fee.
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Richard Carthon: Or does the can do that that need to do like recurring payments for like salaries or, you know, for just companies in general or having like blockchain games with like NFTs that are like they actually do things on their own because like when you play a game with like like Skyrim or Cyberpunk, you know, the characters interact with you first. They interact with each other. They’re not all, just like sitting there waiting for you to interact with them first. And so that is the first time that it’s ever been possible to have like a true NPC in a blockchain game.
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Richard Carthon: Yeah, it was just like realizing that this this thing was missing. And of course, knowing that like once DeFi summer happened, once DEXs like that volume started growing and growing that it was like, Yeah, it was. It was very apparent that now was the right time.
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Richard Carthon: Yeah.
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Richard Carthon: You found it at what you said the timing is is optimal, and as we continue to go through a bearish times, you’re starting to see a lot more people who are not necessarily trading trading at higher volumes and are both going to more staking plays, but then also looking to buy in to different products they’ve been looking to get into at a really good price. Intriguing. And so a lot of places to go and get those price entries are on DEXs and would have been a great time if you had been able to set limit orders a long time ago for price targets to have limit orders in place for something like this.
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Richard Carthon: So for anyone that is just hearing about this and is really curious about this. Walk me through the process of how I come on and utilize this. If I want to potentially set like a limit order, let’s say I’ve been watching bitcoin, for example, for a long time, and I am strongly convicted in this example that let’s say, I think that bitcoin will eventually get back to thirty thousand. I want to put that limit order in place. How would I be able to do that?
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Richard Carthon: Sure, so. So we’re currently live on the EVM chains like Ethereum, Binance, Smart Chain, Avalanche, etc.. So you can’t trade bitcoin directly, but you can trade wrapped bitcoin so you can in effect do this. But you yeah, you go to a DEX that has integrated us. There’s a list on a website autonomy network that I have. Probably the one that supports the most like chains is auto swap dot trade aiuto s.w.a.t.
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Richard Carthon: Dot trade
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Richard Carthon: has like the main chains and everything. But yeah, you basically go to it. It’s just it’s designed to be the same way as Uniswap. You go, you connect to a wallet, you select your tokens like the from and to, you know, input output tokens like the amount you want to. So the price that you want to trade up and you just put in put in a limit or stop loss. And it’s so easy.
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Richard Carthon: Yeah, no, that’s that. That is very user friendly. And again, I know that this is a tool that I personally have been looking for for a long time on a couple of different types of projects I’ve been looking to get into. So I will personally be utilizing this really soon. But my understanding is, is that you actually have some exciting news on the token aspect to you that you are looking to launch a token soon. Can you give us a little bit more information on that?
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Richard Carthon: Yeah. So like late late this quarter, probably around March, we’ll be doing a public token. So
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Richard Carthon: we just kind of sign to build a community at this point because we were very like heads down focused on being like B2B, you know, like infrastructure for four projects to integrate and hadn’t really focused on the community much. So now we’re like publishing a lot more like, you know, interacting in the community a lot more and trying to grow it, etc. So yeah, that’ll be a it took it. So I haven’t decided exactly where it’ll be. It’s probably on copper launch, but some TBD.
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Richard Carthon: It’s kind of like
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Richard Carthon: a Dutch auction kind of style. So it’s kind of immune from frontrunners and that kind of thing. So that’s why we’re looking at that.
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Richard Carthon: Got it. OK, OK. You can talk about just a little bit of the tokenomics of lightning where the utility of the token will be and how it will be utilized.
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Richard Carthon: For sure. Yeah, so it’s in my totally unbiased opinion, an actual utility token, because it’s needed in the network to actually function. So the way the autonomy works is that there’s essentially like a registry, smart contract and a decentralized network of bots who are monitoring that contract. So when a user puts in, for example, a limit order, they essentially make a transaction to our registry that says, I want this action to be taken under this condition, which is, you know, so x for Y and Z price.
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Richard Carthon: And this decentralized network of bots are constantly monitoring it in order to see when they can trigger it. And when they do they they get a small fee. But in order to prevent all of them trying to trigger the same request at the same time, there’s essentially a proof of stake algorithm that’s used in order to kind of say who can execute what at what time. And so those these executed bots need to stake the token. And so if they have, you know, 10 percent the stakes at tokens, then they’ll be able to execute about 10 percent average of of all requests and get get those 10 percent of overall fees.
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Richard Carthon: So it’s essentially like the same tokenomics, as you know, is to like proof of stake or I mean, even really proof of work like it’s needed in order to run the kind of consensus as well as I mean, it’s very lightweight because that’s it. But anyway, in order to do that, do a staking as well as users can also get a discount on the fee if they pan out tokens. So it’s paying the fee and staking. So basically a standard like boss tokenomics
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Richard Carthon: right now that thank you for breaking that down. Um, like you said, I’m glad that the utility of what will be used for within your ecosystem checks out and makes a lot of sense for it and should have a lot of value for everyone who is coming on and using the autonomy network. But I also believe that you have a potential gaming play as well. Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
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Richard Carthon: Yeah, so we were just about to announce this. We’ve been kind of like slowly building this over the last couple of months. It’s essentially a blockchain game called Meta Dungeon, and it’s kind of the first of a kind of p e, which means I play. This is environment blockchain game because like all blockchain games to date, well, have mostly been not really games like gamified yield farms, and they’re all like PvP, you know, like you battle people or like you’re just grinding and like farming stuff, you know, in the case like Exene fancy with the love potion thing.
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Richard Carthon: But yeah, the the thing is like with autonomy, we can create contracts and have teams that can do things for themselves, like they can create their own transactions. And so we can create autonomous NFTs that are essentially like players in this game that interact with you first. So the the first first stage of the game that we’re going to release is just going to be like one boss in this dungeon, which is essentially a dragon, and it transfers itself to other people’s wallets. So if it transfers itself to your wallet, you’ll be able to to fight it.
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Richard Carthon: And if it’s not in your wallet, you’ll be able to summon it by collaborating with other players. Also, by like sacrificing some fees in order to, like, summon it. If you you can’t collaborate with other people, which makes it the first like team play blockchain game that’s ever existed, which
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Richard Carthon: seems like it may be a recipe for virality or for, like instigating kind of
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Richard Carthon: a new wave of blockchain games. Well, that’s that’s the hope, at least.
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Richard Carthon: But yeah, that that is unique, right? That you basically you’re forced to start collaborating because, like you said, most of the focus right now is me versus you are me trying to do a bunch of activities to then be rewarded for said activities. But now if you look at the big games that I’ve done that have been pretty successful, it’s the ones where you can you yourself grow, then grow your own character, but then also being able to collaborate and work with one another. How do you think with.
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Richard Carthon: How this is set up that.
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Richard Carthon: Do you think people will initially be resistant to having to collaborate with others, or do you think people will be more inviting and what kind of flock to it so? Obviously, the premise is that they will come to it. But do you think because this is kind of changing the dynamic that you might be met with some friction initially?
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I think so. I mean, with any kind of new technology or style of things like it, there’s going to be some like road bumps, for sure. I mean, the thing is, like on because all the automation is like fully on chain,
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there needs to be a way for.
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Richard Carthon: The like the the selection of like, how do you collaborate with I should give a lot more context. Basically, like every day, you will be kind of paired with another person. We’re going to increase. It’s like five and 10 people versions in the future. But just to start with, the simplicity is just one person in order to like to summon this dragon. And the thing is like the blockchain only knows about addresses. And so you need some way to, like, find that person and communicate with them. So we’re kind of including like, essentially a Twitter tool.
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Richard Carthon: So you essentially announce like I am, you know, this play in the in the game, you know, like the dmy like, you know, to collaborate, which
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Richard Carthon: may end up kind of saying Twitter on fire, but the kind of funny. But I think there’s definitely like friction in that aspect. But it’s it’s also kind of fun because it’s like the first time that something like this has happened, where you have to like, go out on a mission to do this, investigation yourself in order to like, play this game. So it’s like, has these levels, so to speak to it, that aren’t in the kind of on the blockchain side of things, but are necessary in order to do the blockchain side of things which? Yeah.
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Richard Carthon: I don’t think it’s ever been done before.
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Richard Carthon: It’s interesting, and I know a lot of people are going to want to check that out, especially listen to this for those who are hearing this and are like, Yeah, that sounds that sounds amazing. I want to be a part of that. Where can they find that?
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Richard Carthon: Uh, we haven’t decided if we’re going to put it as a separate website yet, but like the info like links to it will definitely be on our websites. Autonomy network thoughts, I have got it.
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Richard Carthon: Perfect. Well, again, you have a couple of different aspects within the crypto space that I think a lot of people are starting to pay more attention to. Again, the utilization of DEXs, the ability to we’re game of eyes, our Game five going and being built more on the blockchain and how that has been adapting and growing over time. But like as you look across twenty twenty two, as we are just beginning this year, what do you think will define the year of twenty twenty two? Do you think it’s going to be the year of Game five? Do you think the year the Metaverse, do you think is the year of DEXs? Like, where do you think as an industry, the crypto space is headed as it relates to the next, let’s call it, you know, 10 months.
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Richard Carthon: Oof. Uh, hmm. That’s a good question. I, uh, I think. Despite about to launch a massive US game, I think the most potent kind of NFT side of things are extremely like overhyped and, you know, it’s very, very like red hot right now, and it’s probably unsustainable to keep it up, you know, to that intensity for the rest of the year.
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Richard Carthon: I think like DeFi is it’s it’s kind of reached a bit of an equilibrium where it’s like it’s not quite as crazy as DeFi summer in terms of like the percentage of the overall like market or kind of like mine space in crypto that it’s taking up. But I think it’s certainly going to continue anything like the metaverse side of things will.
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Richard Carthon: It’s tough, say, because I think we are at the point with the metaverse
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Richard Carthon: area where we were with DeFi in 2017. Like, there’s a lot of like hope and a lot of projects like grazing, but like very little has actually been built. And so I think like it’s not going to be as anywhere near as fast as people like hope it’s going to take years like a solid two, three, maybe four years in order for kind of any of the promises that people are talking about, like right now in order to be fulfilled.
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Richard Carthon: I mean, people think like DAO tooling. I’ve heard some people say that 2022 is the year of the dollars, but.
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Richard Carthon: It’s. It’s tough to say I love that wasn’t really it wasn’t really a straight answer, but I think it’s I don’t think it’s really going to be dominated by one thing, to be honest. I think that’s what’s going to take too long to actually come into its own and does are still have a long way to go in terms of doing.
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Richard Carthon: Yeah, no. It’s still give us some perspective on some of the different things to be looking out for. It sounds like you’re still pretty bullish on on day five, but it’s kind of like you said, it’s kind of an equilibrium where it’s not going to have such exponential growth, but it’s still going to have a solid, central solid year, whereas in it’s in metaverse as well, the nifty can potentially sustain the amount of hype that it’s had. It might have cooled off a little bit, and metaverse is as excited as everyone is. It’s just going to take time to build. So definitely appreciate that inside that feedback, man.
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Richard Carthon: But again, you’ve given us a lot of really good information, a lot of different ways that people can utilize the tools that you are creating. But I always like to wrap up the two fun questions with all the information that you’ve gathered throughout the years of being in crypto and all the things that you’ve built and all the experience that you have across all the different companies you have. If you go in part one or two pieces of wisdom to yourself, when you first got started and you were working at the company, that was
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Richard Carthon: when you were first getting into this space, right? What would you tell yourself, Chainalysis of?
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Richard Carthon: Hmm.
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Richard Carthon: Thanks to really just focus on building and not get distracted by the market, which is great in the crypto winter because, you know, all the people who are there are like the real ones who are who are, you know, for the love of the tech be, I think.
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Richard Carthon: Focus on building.
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Richard Carthon: And if you if you have an idea of something like one of my kind of regrets about not starting autonomy sooner because I, you know, I like I mentioned, I had the idea in 2019 went to a hackathon and got a prize waiver. And I thought, like with pretty much just as much conviction like this is a very useful thing. It’s just like the market that I was I was working for at the time as well. So I like to try to do those things. But yeah, like if you are convinced that there is use for something, then the best time to build is like before it’s needed so that when it is needed, you’re, you know, ready to just like, hit the ground running, so to speak in the market.
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Richard Carthon: Yeah, that’s good. That is two solid Jim. So.
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Richard Carthon: Focus on the process and the journey of a building, and don’t get distracted by all the noise that’s out there because there’s plenty of it and it’s not going to ever stop. And then if you have conviction on something that could be built that you think you can do or see a company that’s doing it, you want to be a part of it to take the leap if you really have that conviction. So really appreciate those two pieces of insight. But as we wrap up here, James, what is the final thought that you want to leave with all the listeners today?
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Richard Carthon: Hmm. Final Thoughts.
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Richard Carthon: Yeah, I just um, I want people to check out the the game that we’re about to launch at the dungeon because one of the things I didn’t mention actually is that what we’re really trying to capitalize on is composability, which is kind of the the ability for, you know, one blockchain thing to kind of build on top of others. And so we’re essentially like.
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Richard Carthon: Exactly which, and if to use this will be will change like every few days as we kind of choose different projects, but essentially while you’re fighting this dragon or, you know, all these other bosses that you know will release, like after we can add in the ability to get power ups like while fighting this boss by just holding like an office from other projects, you know, like all the apes, you know, loot project, for example, these kinds of things. And I think that’s going to be a a really, really critical.
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Richard Carthon: Kind of inflection points in the Metaverse games, because it’s I think it will be the first time a project is really focused on something I call incentivized community merging or self incentivize community merging where like if you if you say, oh, you know, you need like
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Richard Carthon: an NFT from loot projects, you know, in order to, like, have a power up to like, fight this thing, then like all your users, go to that project, you know, buy it or whatever or collaborate with the people there and all the people in that project. You know, watch what you’re doing and like paying attention and learn about the project. And so you get an idea that you actually play the game. And so you can like target like specifically like one at a time. These different communities and just like one by one, just like merge them. I mean, it’s not going to be like 100 percent, but but at least to like a solid degree.
00:25:52:02 – 00:26:26:19
Richard Carthon: And I think that’s something like that has never been done before. And I think it’s going to create like these incredible network effects. And like, I have no idea how to. It’s going to turn out, to be honest with you. It’s it’s extremely experimental, but I think it has the potential to be the kind of kick off a new wave of a blockchain gaming that’s kind of been this like promised thing of, you know, you can like, Oh, we can all build in the same universe. But like if you actually look at blockchain games like very few people, you know, X Infinity doesn’t touch any of the blockchain games. And that’s that’s pretty much the case for like the main, the main ones.
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Richard Carthon: And so hopefully, like in the model that we have, if it can work in a in a sustainable way and like actually does, you know, generally all these network effects, then I think it’s going to be like a catalyst for other projects to do the same. And then we we really hopefully we’ll start to see some of the promises of metaverse gaming, at least like come to fruition. And so, yeah, that’s what excites me about this. This project in particular
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Richard Carthon: know which is really cool, and you are definitely trying to be an innovator and trendsetter in this space, and someone’s got to put it out there to see how the market’s going to receive it and hopefully work with it in once a success. We start seeing this as the first domino that keeps falling to keep bringing us closer to the the gaming future that we all want to see. So James really definitely appreciate that. Thanks for the final thought. What are ways that people can connect with you and keep learning more about everything going on with autonomy network?
00:27:25:22 – 00:27:48:09
Richard Carthon: Yeah, just our website and Twitter at Autonomy Network a Yuto A. and Y Network, an autonomy network, -.you like journal Discord. That’s where we do a lot of communication along with like Twitter. Um yeah, I’d say that the main places to get the announcements and get the alpha four for everyone else.
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