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00:00:32:13 – 00:00:58:03

Richard Carthon: Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of Crypto Current, your host here, Richard carton and today I got a special guest, a repeat guest, one of my good friends who’s been in the crypto space for a very long time. He has been on the show earlier, I’ll make sure to put that in the show notes. But he’s absolutely been crushing it over the years. We have Blockchain Wayne, who is also part of the Crypto Current team now putting out some exclusive video content. Mr. Wayne Marcel, how are you doing today?

00:00:58:22 – 00:01:15:12

Wayne Marcel: Hey Richard, doing great man. I appreciate you bringing me back on, love talking crypto with you. I mean we talk a lot off recording, so it’s great to be able to catch up here and to see how far we’ve come since that last episode we did together. Man, so long ago.

00:01:15:15 – 00:01:52:02

Richard Carthon: Yeah man. We have learned so much since then and we’ve definitely been able to grow a lot in our own lives, but also just building our own communities with the various platforms that we have. And just growing in this space and just having so much more knowledge and you know, typically I do a quick background. But how about instead of that typical, how about give us some information on your new website that you just dropped, right? So you have BlockchainWayne.com and you’re starting to offer some different services. So give us some background of like, how you got to that point and what it is and what you’re doing now.

00:01:52:04 – 00:02:38:24

Wayne Marcel: Yeah man, appreciate it, actually I am still fine tuning the site, but the site is up and it’s got an email capture, but other than that, nobody is able really to check out yet because I’m about to run a test pilot. So over the years, I’ve always been interested in tech and I’ve also for many years have done managing and leading and coaching high develop you know, high performance teams. And when I came into crypto, it was kind of like those two meshed and I was like, “Okay I really enjoy coaching and teaching people and this is also a space where it’s still so early that we need to be able to educate people about it, the ins and outs, the pros and cons, how to avoid scams, how to protect yourself, proper security, all those things.” That it kind of, it progressed.” Right?

00:02:38:26 – 00:02:52:19

Wayne Marcel: So I started with a book in early 2018, which funny thing is, I’m actually redoing it right now because I start writing the book in 2017 and when I looked back at it about a month ago, I was like, “Man, this thing is so outdated now, I need to update it completely.”

00:02:52:21 – 00:02:53:06

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:02:53:08 – 00:03:09:21

Wayne Marcel: So I’m working on that update now, it’s just a short beginners guide, basics for people getting into crypto. And then from there, I started a podcast as well, which is how you and I pretty much connected. You know, some mutual friends had mentioned that we should talk to each other because we’re both on podcasts.

00:03:10:00 – 00:03:10:15

Richard Carthon: Right.

00:03:10:17 – 00:04:20:27

Wayne Marcel: And so I’ve been doing that, but I’ve always had the desire to be in the space to teach people about what they need to know and I’ve also done a lot of personal development, goal setting, mindset coaching myself, been coached and I want to better help people with that as well. So that kind of spawned the idea to where launching BlockchainWayne.com and the site, it’s still rough around the edges, doesn’t have a lot of content on there yet, but I’m working on having that build done probably by the end of August it’ll be more functional because August 1st I’m launching a test group where I’ve got a group of call it you know, coaching students together that we’re gonna test out you know, I’m gonna test out the program and get some feedback and see how it works. But I realize that we have an academy where you can go in and learn and I know I think Richard you’ll probably share the link, you’ve got a link to refer people to. It’s online courses where you can go in and learn about crypto. Well the next step above that, a lot of people still don’t join because they feel they need some personal one-on-one help, they need to be coached, they need be taught, they need to actually be shown and that’s where the ideas fall into, “Ok, let’s start offering some coaching programs.”

00:04:20:29 – 00:04:47:11

Wayne Marcel: So we’re gonna have some 30 day programs, some 90 day programs, some one year, two year coaching programs to better teach people about the ins and outs of cryptocurrency. And we go more than just hey what is Bitcoin, we go back through the history of money, we go through the future, where it could go. We also go into a big part of it is security because teaching people how to have proper security, that helps them not just in crypto, but everything you know.

00:04:47:16 – 00:04:48:01

Richard Carthon: Right.

00:04:48:03 – 00:05:21:02

Wayne Marcel: You’d be surprised how many people I talked to use the same password for every account, whether it’s a Best Buy membership account or their bank account, or their E-Trade in financial account, they all use the same password. And one system gets hacked and everything is compromised. So I go into a lot of detail about that and I just really wanted to be in this space. I’m not a coder, I’m not a developer, but one thing I do enjoy is helping and teaching people and merging that with tech was a perfect opportunity. So that’s kind of the plan.

00:05:21:05 – 00:06:11:16

Richard Carthon: Sure. And I think what you brought on in a major way makes a lot of sense to even some people that are listening, to our audience, is who’s looking for that one-on-one coaching, right? So just that next level of one-on-one responsiveness is if I have a specific question, I have someone I can go to and ask this or if I want someone to walk me through here is truly how I can purchase some cryptocurrency on Coinbase and then I can transfer that money to an external wallet or to another exchange or I want to gift crypto to a family member, like how would I purchase it and give it to them and set all that up? So there are so many various use cases or even if you’re like, “Oh I’ve heard that you can trade this stuff.” And we even have some of the education pieces that are online where Wayne has kindly enough shown some basics to trading and understanding indicators and everything else.

00:06:11:18 – 00:07:03:21

Richard Carthon: But to that next level of like, “Oh wow, I’ve done some testing with some fake money just to see like how would I perform and I’ve been making some really good returns, I want to put my own money into this. How do I make sure that I am in a good enough place where I feel comfortable and confident to go and try these things?” And so you know, iron sharpens iron. Wayne is a super sharp guy and he is going to help teach you pretty much anything that you would want to know to get started in this space. And you know, the only reason that I can speak as comfortably as I am is that we’ve had a relationship for the last two years. I’ve been able to see the stuff that this man has been able to do. He’s helped me in a lot of different ways. And you know, I really do think if you’re looking for that next level of like just one-on-one type of coaching, he would be a really good person to get in contact with and figure out how to get that going. So definitely.

00:07:03:23 – 00:07:04:18

Wayne Marcel: Yeah.

00:07:04:20 – 00:07:11:21

Richard Carthon: Like I’m excited to learn more about that offering and how you’re gonna be giving it to various people.

00:07:13:04 – 00:07:55:18

Wayne Marcel: Thank you man. It’s gonna evolve over time and one thing when you look out there, there are people offering services for sometimes their charging ungodly amounts and other times they’re charging what would normally be reasonable, but not really offering any value. So it’s one thing I wanted to bring to it is, “Ok, we’re going to give you value” because our goal is, I mean, you and I both I mean, we do a lot of what we do to get the word out there, to get people involved and bring more movement towards adoption and adoption for me doesn’t mean the price skyrockets the crypto. It means that we can go out and utilize it in day-to-day life without having to worry about any kind of conversion to fiat or linking it to a bank account.

00:07:55:26 – 00:08:49:23

Wayne Marcel: If I want to transact with someone I can as well you know, in multiple places. And so that’s kind of what we’re looking to do here. I mean, and our goal is to get it to the masses. I mean, we the online academy, which is kind of like a self-taught thing where people can go in and self teach themselves, I mean we dropped the price to where it’s so low that just about anybody can get in. And we’ve even made it free to a lot of organizations in Africa because there’s a big need for crypto education in Africa and then also to people of, just partnered up recently with the Innocence Project, where a lot of people that are wrongfully convicted and getting freed and maybe have been in prison for some time and now having to start over, they need to try to understand an old system of finance cause they realize they need to invest and they’re behind the eight ball on that, but that they’re you know, there’s new technology out there that you can position yourself in front of.

00:08:49:25 – 00:09:10:25

Wayne Marcel: So that was kind of how it progressed I was like, “Ok, now I need to focus on the people that, it’s not the cost of a program that’s a barrier, it’s I need somebody to show it to me and that’s how.” You’d be surprised how many calls I get every day or I don’t want to say every day, but at least every week about people wanting to know, “Hey I got this hardware wallet, how do I set this up?”

00:09:11:27 – 00:09:12:12

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:09:12:14 – 00:09:14:09

Wayne Marcel: You know, I can charge a course just for that, right? So.

00:09:14:19 – 00:09:15:06

Richard Carthon: Right.

00:09:15:28 – 00:09:49:28

Wayne Marcel: But the goal is the information is out there and the biggest thing is how you’re gonna bring value to people and that’s what we’re looking to do. So we’re gonna run a test program and keep everybody posted. I’m sure we’ll probably talk again once we get that rolled out and get some feedback cause I want to take the feedback from the first beta group and see, “Ok, what can we really fine tune?” And there’s a few people in there that are already in crypto, but they’re gonna be students, in essence to one, they’ll learn how to help teach the side as well and two, give some feedback on “Ok, what worked good work, what could work better.”

00:09:50:00 – 00:10:01:18

Richard Carthon: Right. And let’s say there’s somebody that’s listening to this and they’re like, “Hey, actually I’m interested in doing this. Is there a good way to be able to connect with you to potentially be one of these first people to use this?”

00:10:02:09 – 00:10:46:03

Wayne Marcel: Yeah absolutely. Like I said I got the email capture on the site, BlockchainWayne.com, but also you can send me an email at Wayne@BlockchainWayne.com and just let me know you’re interested in finding out more about the program cause like I said, right now the site is only semi functional, but the goal is to have it launched by the end of August. And really just be that funnel to get people that want to learn about crypto, that want to understand all the ins and outs of the processes or maybe you’re listening and a lot of people hear about crypto first through a scam or maybe you’ve lost some money in a scam. I mean, I lost money several years ago in one you know and so it’s really important that we teach people that scams have been around since the beginning of time, right?

00:10:46:07 – 00:10:46:22

Richard Carthon: Yep.

00:10:46:24 – 00:11:22:25

Wayne Marcel: It’s kind of evolved with technology, so it’s no surprise that crypto comes along and there’s scams involving cryptocurrency. So, but there is some underlying technology here and underlying implications where cryptocurrency can give back so much freedom and equality to people that have been stripped of freedom, stripped of equality, it can give that back. When you understand the importance of that this is just a technology that’s going to impact the world. We live in a digital world, right? Most of us connect digitally. Fact, before this podcast, I got on my phone and ordered food for the family, right?

00:11:22:27 – 00:11:23:12

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:11:23:14 – 00:11:41:06

Wayne Marcel: So now we live in a digital world, that only makes sense that we have a peer-to-peer permissionless, open system and then also you think about when the Internet launched and all the great things that are built on top of that. Well this is the next level and what’s going to be built on top of blockchain, that’s a big deal too.

00:11:41:14 – 00:11:47:18

Richard Carthon: No doubt. And on the subject of scams you know, we recently just encountered a huge one that was on Twitter, right?

00:11:47:25 – 00:11:48:21

Wayne Marcel: Yeah.

00:11:48:23 – 00:12:35:25

Richard Carthon: And in a lot of ways, it brought the negative light back onto the crypto side of a crypto scam and you had Elon Musk, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, a bunch of huge names in the Twitter community, who had their accounts scammed and they basically they’re asking for, “Hey if you send us a $1,000 in Bitcoin, we’ll send you back two.” Right? The classic Bitcoin scam, but the challenge with that is when you go to Twitter and you see the blue checkmark and you know they’re legit it’s like, “Ok, I know this sounds like a scam, but it’s coming from them, so I should trust this, right?” So of course, the conflict of people who ended up giving their money and so like one, one of the huge things going back to the point of security earlier is that one, Twitter’s in a lot trouble right now, right?

00:12:36:03 – 00:12:36:29

Wayne Marcel: Yeah.

00:12:37:01 – 00:13:11:18

Richard Carthon: Because their stocks been starting to go down because if they used to be looked at as a reliable source to have a profile and get your news out to the world you know, what would have happened if Trump would have gotten his hacked and then they declared war on somebody or like another world power and they’d done the same thing? Like it just it opens this whole web of like problems that could happen and so like laying out what I want to pose to you is like you know, what do you think this means like this negative connotation that just came onto crypto, but then also what does it mean to like make sure that these platforms that we’re using are more secure?

00:13:11:20 – 00:13:25:03

Wayne Marcel: Yeah. So I mean, that’s a great point. So first and foremost, the fact that they asked for Bitcoin is huge. And I don’t know if you saw, there was also some hidden message in the wallet addresses that were used.

00:13:25:27 – 00:13:26:12

Richard Carthon: I didn’t see that.

00:13:26:14 – 00:14:08:15

Wayne Marcel: Within the wallet addresses was actually coded out to spell out about, it gave a cryptic message about how Bitcoin is traceable and Monaro is better. The irony of it. So, but that it also, to non-crypto people, I mean, let’s face it, if they would’ve asked for cash or gift cards it wouldn’t be called a Bitcoin scam. But yeah, that’s some negative light that gets cast on every time there’s a scam that comes out that cryptocurrency is related to or used in it, they always want to point at that. But let’s also remember the number one form of currency that’s used by most criminals is cash, is the U.S. dollar, right?

00:14:08:17 – 00:14:09:02

Richard Carthon: Right.

00:14:09:04 – 00:14:53:27

Wayne Marcel: So money and cryptocurrency is not inherently good or bad. It’s just, it’s neutral, right? There’s no good or bad connotation to it, it’s all in how it’s used. We can all use cash for good and cash for bad, we can all use cryptocurrency for good and cryptocurrency for bad. So once people get past that, this little rumbling, it’s gonna go away, but it also pointed out some huge implications for the system, right? One, they wanted crypto, so that just shows you, typically criminals are the first to adopt technology, right? They were some of the first to use the Internet and they’re going to be you know, because they’re trying to stay ahead of the masses, ahead of any kind of anything that could slow down technology. They’re always trying to stay on the cutting edge.

00:14:53:29 – 00:14:54:14

Richard Carthon: Right.

00:14:54:16 – 00:15:07:17

Wayne Marcel: And usually they you know, some of these you know, high level criminals, have some of the best toys out there. You see it kind of mocked about you know, movies and stuff, but even you know, with Dr. Evil and Austin Powers, right?

00:15:08:28 – 00:15:09:13

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:15:09:15 – 00:15:58:06

Wayne Marcel: But also the platform, you mentioned the platform. So this also shows a problem with centralized systems. When you have a closed, centralized system, anytime there’s a breach it’s catastrophic. And just like this, it can be catastrophic for Twitter and other platforms. Well let’s face it, every platform, every social media platform that’s centralized, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, everything else, they all are built with a backdoor. Why are they built with a backdoor? Because regulators want to be able to have control, administrators of the network want to be able to have control. There’s always a sense of being able to control certain things, but when you open that, when you have a backdoor that creates that vulnerability, it creates a huge problem.

00:15:58:08 – 00:17:14:17

Wayne Marcel: When people don’t realize, there are blockchain based systems out there that can be utilized for social media and argued being utilized for social media, right? And I’ll list a few that I’m actually, the two I use the most or one called Rebuzz. Rebuzz.io, awesome user interface, they’ve got a Google and an Apple app. And it kind of reminds me, it’s kind of a mesh of Facebook and Instagram together. But I, you know, I earn crypto every time I post on there. And then YouTube is another centralized platform that has been hacked, that has had you know, issues with that before. And instead of using YouTube, I also use Lbry.tv, L-B-R-Y.TV. It’s a blockchain platform because blockchain is unstoppable code. When you decentralize the code, there’s no one point of breach because the network is spread across the world and you can have thousands, tens of thousands, hundred thousands of nodes that are running the network and instead of some, a set of central servers to where a hacker can easily find a backdoor get in and do mass amount of harm. I mean, it was about $120,000 worth of Bitcoin that was sent during that hack, right?

00:17:14:19 – 00:17:15:04

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:17:15:08 – 00:18:40:11

Wayne Marcel: And you know, they’ve traced it. Now Bitcoin is anonymous, it’s not private, but it’s anonymous, so you can track where that Bitcoin’s going and it’s going through different things that many people that have been tracking it say it’s are kind of like mixers. And all a mixer is a bunch of people send Bitcoin through this one mixer and it’ll kind of mix it up and send it out to the right places. But you can’t tell what Bitcoin you know, what came in and what went out from where, you just know it went in and went out somewhere, you can’t really track where it went after it went through the mixer. So there’s a lot of applications there, but just understand that more people are going to use technology for good than bad and any time people call for more regulations, more control, just look back at history. Those regulations have been created not to protect the masses, but to benefit the select few elite, those that abuse power. And you know, control. It’s just something that has always been abused. So you just got to look at that. Humanity as a whole has always been the majority has been good, you know, there’s always going to be bad actors and select few that use stuff for bad. So people, if you heard about the Twitter hack and maybe you think, “Oh I maybe need to rethink this bitcoin thing,” It’s not, it’s just inherently, it can be used for good or bad just like anything else.

00:18:40:24 – 00:19:19:01

Richard Carthon: Yep. Yeah and I definitely appreciate you expanding on that. And Wayne said it extremely well in the sense that you know, money itself isn’t good or bad. It’s neutral. And especially in the crypto it still holds true. And I really do think that what is something that’s interesting about all of this is that again it’s bringing more light to the whole crypto world, but it’s also showing like of all things to potentially get paid in, why this digital currency, why this thing that either could like continue to like hold value or could you know, ultimately not?

00:19:19:03 – 00:20:33:28

Richard Carthon: And as you’re looking at the scam artists and who is truly trying to like bring in money these days. What are they doing it in? It’s in Bitcoin. And like the first thought is like why? And the two first things that come to me about that is it because it’s anonymous and that you know, there is that sense of being anonymous in how you’re doing everything. But then the second part is that it is valuable. It is being seen as valuable and it will continue to be valuable. So it’s just going to show that the crypto space itself is inherently becoming more and more valuable with time. But another thing that you brought up in that whole conversation that I really want to bring back to the light and what one of the major things that I’ve always enjoyed about Wayne, Wayne always knows all of the latest and greatest things that in the crypto and blockchain space as far as things to use, right? So he just told you about a video platform that you can use that uses blockchain, another one that you can use on iPhone and Android. Wayne, what are some current crypto and blockchain either platforms or things in the space that you’re currently using or that you think people should know of?

00:20:35:12 – 00:21:19:15

Wayne Marcel: Yeah. So first and foremost, the ones I mentioned, Rebuzz.io, is their website, Rebuzz. It’s a social media platform that was just launched by a friend of mine who also, he was also the founder of Bravo Coin. I think we even talked about Bravo Coin back when we did that original interview. It’s a Yelp like platform that’s built on a blockchain to where you can leave reviews. And the biggest problem with Yelp is there’s so many robots, so many fake accounts that solve that problem. So it’s incentivizing people to leave reviews by paying back in crypto, crypto that then gets out on the market and is traded and has value. As so Rebuzz was the next iteration of that, so that’s one.

00:21:19:17 – 00:22:10:29

Wayne Marcel: The other one L-B-R-Y.TV. What’s funny is they’ve been around for several years, I just started using the platform not too long ago only because I remember in early 2017, like February or March, I was day trading their token on I think it was Bittrex or Poloniex, not even knowing what the platform was. And then when I found out about the platform and I started using it, I’ve already cashed out a few hundred dollars worth of lbry tokens from that platform. You get incentivized by posting your content, by interacting with other content and for watching videos, right? You earn, it’s almost like participation points, but it gamifies that platform to where it incentivizes people to use it and that’s what we need more of. I mean, blockchain gaming is a big thing that I see and I also, I always like to teach people how to earn crypto.

00:22:11:01 – 00:23:17:17

Wayne Marcel: Some people may say I don’t have a lot of money to put into it, well go out and earn it. You can earn it by using these platforms I talk about. There’s also Coinbase Earn, is one that’s been around for a while. You can watch some short videos and they will pay you in crypto, if Coinbase is available in your area. Another one I use a lot of lately is called Lolly. Now a lot of online shopping has happened since the shutdown and I was using this before the shutdown, but say you normally go to your websites, like say you want to order something from Bass Pro Shops or Target or for instance, my 15-year-old daughter wanted some Crocs for Christmas. Yeah I know, I don’t know what she was thinking with Crocs, but so I went to I go through Lolly’s web browser add in and Lolly pays you a percentage back in crypto for going through their platform, so you earn Bitcoin every time you shop. You know I went. It took me to the Crocs site for instance, I checked out on Crocs and I earned about $7 back in Bitcoin for that transaction by utilizing Lolly.

00:23:17:25 – 00:23:54:02

Wayne Marcel: Now people may understand,  how does that work? Well there are these other platforms like Honey that a lot of people have heard of, that will give you money or gift certificates back for you going through their platform to shop on major retailers online and all it is is the retailers, each one pays different, which is why the amounts vary, but they’re paying that company to draw traffic to their sites. So all the companies you’re doing are paying you back in rewards percentage you know, bonus points, gift certificates and in this case, Lolly pays you back in Bitcoin. So that’s another one that a lot of people can utilize.

00:23:54:12 – 00:24:15:19

Richard Carthon: Yeah. No, those are all really cool and we’ll make sure to also include those in the show notes, so definitely go check those out. But between you know, a lot has happened in 2020 and it looks like the future is bright in the crypto and blockchain space. What are some things that you think people should be aware of in the short to immediate future of everything that’s happening in this space?

00:24:17:07 – 00:25:07:29

Wayne Marcel: It kind of reminds me, so even when I look back, 2018 was a year discovery for me because 2017 was phenomenal, 2018, we saw prices crash. And crypto is more than just what is the price and relative to the U.S. dollar. So I tell people to really, now is the time to, it’s actually a sweet spot because I think we still have a little bit of volatility before we see more increase in price, so people don’t have to have this fear of missing out, like I need to rush in, but you also don’t need to wait. So you need to start educating yourself on what’s going on, look at the projects that are coming out and kind of compare that to the adoption of the Internet. There’s a lot of things that are happening that cryptocurrency and blockchain both together can help solve some of these problems, right?

00:25:08:01 – 00:26:12:11

Wayne Marcel: When you look at it, when you’re looking at this expose not many people have trust in the media, not many people have trust in government, not many people have trust and while a lot of people lost trust in financial institutions back in 2008. But some people have forgotten about that and we’re seeing money get printed, everything else and you have to realize that cryptocurrency and blockchain gives you the ability to restore trust, to restore freedom that may have been taken away. So education right now. This is why I’m just doubling down on education because it is the most important thing you can invest in. You know, people saying, “Where should I put my money in crypto?” I tell them, “You should put it in your education because that is where it’s gonna pay off,” it’s more than just, “Hey, what crypto can I buy this, can it give me 10x or 20x games?” Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong. We all like to have stuff that we’ve, we’re holding or trading, go up in value and make some good returns, but at the end of the day this is a long term future.

00:26:12:13 – 00:27:04:28

Wayne Marcel: And I also challenge people to look at our educational system. And if you’ve got kids and they’re not learning about what cryptocurrency and blockchain are, then they need to be investing in that as well, you need to be teaching them. They don’t have to go buy anything yet, just start learning about what it is. Trust me they’ll earn it. You know, one of the first industries that’s going to really drive adoption of crypto is gaming and a lot of those kids are already in that space. So I just tell people to double down on your education and learn. If you’re not taking this time, if you’ve got that time and you’re not taking it to learn more, then you’re just wasting your time. You know, we can all sit around and watch Tiger King on Netflix, but if you’re also not taking time to invest in yourself, then you’re going to miss out when the world’s changing and people don’t realize that until they look back and say, “Wow, look how much things have changed.”

00:27:05:00 – 00:27:20:19

Richard Carthon: For sure. And just to piggyback on that just a little bit, I think education is absolutely essential. And I believe investing in yourself is very, very important and you need to educate and be learning these things. But the next step of that too is after you have it, you have to use it. To know what not to do is not to know.

00:27:20:23 – 00:27:21:08

Wayne Marcel: Yeah.

00:27:21:10 – 00:27:44:00

Richard Carthon: And so make sure as you are learning these things that you are implementing them slowly, but surely, but just doing something, taking some action, so that you can truly refine and make sure that you are understanding and using the new knowledge that you have. And Wayne I just wanted to ask you man, like you know definitely appreciate everything you shared with us today. But what is a final thought you want to leave with all of the listeners here today?

00:27:44:27 – 00:28:50:09

Wayne Marcel: Well let me piggyback on what you just said man cause that kind of hit me because it’s true and that’s one of the reasons I started with a coaching program. Some people may say, “Why do you have goal setting and mindset and person development built into crypto coaching?” It’s because there’s so many educated people out there still walking around not doing what they know they could do to better their lives, right? So you said that quote, I love to know and not to do is not to know and so many times I see people that you can teach them everything they need to do and they just won’t do it. So you got to take action and small actions can lead to bigger actions, but you’ve got to start the process. It may you know, it may seem like a thousand miles away, but you’ve got to start with that first step. So that’s really you know, my final thoughts to people. Don’t go to sleep, don’t rush into crypto and think you’ve just got to jump in and buy everything without research. There’s no rush in the crypto, but there’s also you don’t want to be the person that misses out over the long term, as we move towards adoption. There’s still a lot of volatility within the space.

00:28:50:13 – 00:29:26:09

Wayne Marcel: A lot of chances for people to get in to earn some decent gains from the adoption of this. I’m not going to be, say that we’re completely against you know, stuff going up in value, crypto going up value, but that in the end, that’s what brings a lot of people in. But once you really understand what’s there, there’s so much more to it. So that’s it. You know, following Crypto Current, following my stuff. I also have a podcast, it’s called “From No Crypto to Know Crypto.” From N-O to K-N-O-W. I always have to spell it out when I’m on audio.

00:29:26:15 – 00:29:27:12

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:29:28:25 – 00:30:24:18

Wayne Marcel: But just find those people that are teaching about education. If you come across people on YouTube that are shilling projects that are going to the moon or 500 time gains, stay away from all that stuff you know. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Which is you know, kind of like that even when you know, Elon Musk and Joe Biden and Barack Obama, all of them are offering to double your Bitcoin. Even though it’s an authorized, verified account with that blue checkmark, that still doesn’t mean your sensors shouldn’t be going off saying, “Something’s not right here.” Something says they’re going to pay you one percent a day, you know. You think about it, that’s a 365 percent gain over the year if you don’t compound it. That’s just not logical when most investments, like a good return on investment is usually, 5 to 10 percent annually, right? So if there’s something as drastic or more than that, that should be a red flag.

00:30:24:20 – 00:31:17:05

Wayne Marcel: So I guess it all, then all that really ties back into getting advice and learning from the right people and make sure you’re not following the wrong people. You know, we saw, one thing I can tell people this is kind of my feeling, my gut is this space is really about to get really hot and heated again. We’ve seen recently some different cryptocurrencies, some different altcoins start to fire up, but that’s just the beginning cause also what I see some people that I have not seen since the end of 2017 that were you know, I’m not recommending you follow some of these people, but they were shilling this project and that project and they looked like a genius because everything was gone up. Those people are starting to come back. It’s funny I’ve seen several recently that had zero action 2018, 2019 and now they’re starting to come back because they realize the market’s getting heated up and it’s easy to call a winner when the market’s going up, you know?

00:31:17:07 – 00:31:17:22

Richard Carthon: Yeah.

00:31:17:24 – 00:31:29:26

Wayne Marcel: There’s times coming. I think once we get past the end of 2020 to early 2021, we’re really going to see some major movement, some major adoption of cryptocurrency and blockchain.

00:31:30:18 – 00:31:46:26

Richard Carthon: Awesome. Well we definitely appreciate that final thought and those  final insights. But I mean, everyone listening, I don’t know if y’all know this, but Wayne is super involved on social media and is very active. What are some different ways that people can interact with you and follow you on those handles?

00:31:47:29 – 00:32:22:25

Wayne Marcel: Absolutely. Thank you, so Facebook, just search Blockchain Wayne or my podcast page is “From No Crypto to Know Crypto.” From N-O to K-N-O-W. And Instagram is Blockchain Wayne, on Twitter I had to mix it up a little bit. Twitter right now is actually its Blockchain Wayne, but blockchain is spelled with a Y instead of an I, only because some guy had already taken Blockchain Wayne like four years ago and never did anything with it. So if anybody knows that guy, tell him I’d like to buy that handle off of him, but until then, it’s blockchain with a Y.

00:32:23:09 – 00:32:46:03

Richard Carthon: Awesome. Well again, really appreciate you being with us. Everyone that’s listening, you can go online to Crypto Current, Crypot-Current.co/education. We have a bunch of videos that Wayne has made for us in partnership. If you want to be part of the first group of his exclusive one-on-one coaching make sure to reach out and more than anything, thank you for listening to our show. Stay Crypto Current.